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	<title>Comments on: You Be The Judge: The Case of the Noisy Neighbor</title>
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		<title>By: You Be The Judge: Broker Non-Cooperation Under the Realtor Code of Ethics</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Nov 2008 17:20:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: You Be The Judge: Time of the Essence Closing Date</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 27 May 2008 16:25:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: sellsius</title>
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		<dc:creator>sellsius</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Nov 2007 06:34:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;ANSWER&lt;/strong&gt;---

Mary lost the case.  It was decided in Louisiana.  The Court ruled that the right to enforce the rules did not require the Board to exercise  that right.  So Tony, you are right.

Mary filed police reports but the cops did not stop the Noyze.
Mary finally moved out.

I represented an owner with the same problem as Mary. I was able to get the Board to threaten termination of the owner&#039;s proprietary lease for breaching its nuisance terms and not complying with the requirement that 80% of the unit flooring be carpeted (excluding kitchens and baths). (we had recordings of the noise, written diary entries with date and time, and police reports, other neighbor corroboration) The owner evicted the tenants.
It is important to remember that each case is unique and each state is different in its application of the state law.   

Laurie-- your technique is pretty common, I&#039;d say. It either works or leads to retaliation. I know cases where garbage was left outside doors, nasty notes taped to doors for all the other neighbors to see-- someone even greased the stair bannister. I advised one client to soundproof his ceiling (which he did). Heck, I once lived in an apt building where the guy downstairs waived a gun because he objected to noise. That&#039;s one reason to live in a detached home.</description>
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<p>Mary lost the case.  It was decided in Louisiana.  The Court ruled that the right to enforce the rules did not require the Board to exercise  that right.  So Tony, you are right.</p>
<p>Mary filed police reports but the cops did not stop the Noyze.<br />
Mary finally moved out.</p>
<p>I represented an owner with the same problem as Mary. I was able to get the Board to threaten termination of the owner&#8217;s proprietary lease for breaching its nuisance terms and not complying with the requirement that 80% of the unit flooring be carpeted (excluding kitchens and baths). (we had recordings of the noise, written diary entries with date and time, and police reports, other neighbor corroboration) The owner evicted the tenants.<br />
It is important to remember that each case is unique and each state is different in its application of the state law.   </p>
<p>Laurie&#8211; your technique is pretty common, I&#8217;d say. It either works or leads to retaliation. I know cases where garbage was left outside doors, nasty notes taped to doors for all the other neighbors to see&#8211; someone even greased the stair bannister. I advised one client to soundproof his ceiling (which he did). Heck, I once lived in an apt building where the guy downstairs waived a gun because he objected to noise. That&#8217;s one reason to live in a detached home.</p>
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		<title>By: sellsius</title>
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		<dc:creator>sellsius</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Nov 2007 16:59:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Answer coming tomorrow. Thanks for playing.</description>
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		<title>By: Laurie Manny</title>
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		<dc:creator>Laurie Manny</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Nov 2007 11:58:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ahhhhh, I truly feel for Mary. While it is true that she may not win and that she should call the police several times nightly until they start fining the landlord for the tenants offenses, it is not likely she will win against the HOA, even though she should.  

When I lived in NY I too had the tenant from HELL below me in my co-op building, I owned, he rented.  He was like clockwork right around midnight he would crank up the music, start screaming at his wife and would often beat her, he was most likely a drinker and a nasty drunk.  The heel of my western boots worked well for banging on the floor to try to get him to shut up and stop, but alas, it too was ineffective. 

What Mary needs to understand is that being in the upper unit she has a distinct advantage, as I did.  I decided to get even with the pr*$k!

I enlisted my sister.  Together we moved my furniture to the walls, moved the coffee table out of the way, rolled up the area rugs, had a few drinks of our own, turned the monster sized speakers down onto the wood floors, laced up our roller skates and had a great time dancing in skates, jumping up and down, singing at the top of our lungs, blasting the music...just making all the noise that we could possibly dream up.  

Of course I waited until a day that it was obvious that he had company over.  

When he and his buddies banged on my steel door, we ignored them and rocked on.  We did this in the middle of the day, when we had the right to make noise - not at an unreasonable hour. 

Nobody could do a thing.  We went on for hours and had a great time while doing it. 

The wife left him about 2 weeks later, he moved within a month.  

The lesson here..............never, ever screw with your UPSTAIRS neighbor!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ahhhhh, I truly feel for Mary. While it is true that she may not win and that she should call the police several times nightly until they start fining the landlord for the tenants offenses, it is not likely she will win against the HOA, even though she should.  </p>
<p>When I lived in NY I too had the tenant from HELL below me in my co-op building, I owned, he rented.  He was like clockwork right around midnight he would crank up the music, start screaming at his wife and would often beat her, he was most likely a drinker and a nasty drunk.  The heel of my western boots worked well for banging on the floor to try to get him to shut up and stop, but alas, it too was ineffective. </p>
<p>What Mary needs to understand is that being in the upper unit she has a distinct advantage, as I did.  I decided to get even with the pr*$k!</p>
<p>I enlisted my sister.  Together we moved my furniture to the walls, moved the coffee table out of the way, rolled up the area rugs, had a few drinks of our own, turned the monster sized speakers down onto the wood floors, laced up our roller skates and had a great time dancing in skates, jumping up and down, singing at the top of our lungs, blasting the music&#8230;just making all the noise that we could possibly dream up.  </p>
<p>Of course I waited until a day that it was obvious that he had company over.  </p>
<p>When he and his buddies banged on my steel door, we ignored them and rocked on.  We did this in the middle of the day, when we had the right to make noise &#8211; not at an unreasonable hour. </p>
<p>Nobody could do a thing.  We went on for hours and had a great time while doing it. </p>
<p>The wife left him about 2 weeks later, he moved within a month.  </p>
<p>The lesson here&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;..never, ever screw with your UPSTAIRS neighbor!</p>
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		<title>By: tyler moxley</title>
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		<dc:creator>tyler moxley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Nov 2007 06:51:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I know how Mary feels! Too bad for both the board (bad rep) Mary (no sleep). Call the cops and file a noise complaint? Just move.</description>
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		<title>By: Pensacola Real Estate News</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pensacola Real Estate News</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Nov 2007 13:59:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I feel terrible for Mary. I say she should be the ultimate winner in this case, but the way condo boards are, I have a feeling that Mary will need to get a night shift job and sleep during the day. I really hope she comes out the winner.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I feel terrible for Mary. I say she should be the ultimate winner in this case, but the way condo boards are, I have a feeling that Mary will need to get a night shift job and sleep during the day. I really hope she comes out the winner.</p>
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		<title>By: Dave Blockhus</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dave Blockhus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Nov 2007 03:19:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The case goes through a long drawn out court battle where the judge ultimately throws it out.  And the winners are.....the attorney&#039;s.  Actually I vote for Mary because she decided to get a dog that barks all day preventing the Noyze&#039;s from getting any sleep.  They move out two weeks later.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The case goes through a long drawn out court battle where the judge ultimately throws it out.  And the winners are&#8230;..the attorney&#8217;s.  Actually I vote for Mary because she decided to get a dog that barks all day preventing the Noyze&#8217;s from getting any sleep.  They move out two weeks later.</p>
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		<title>By: Tony Arko</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tony Arko</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Nov 2007 02:25:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Board wins because they are allowed to but not required to enforce the noise rules.  I sold a condo due to this situation.  Mary should call the police so they file a report.  When they continue to break the law she should sue the renters and the people who rented to the owners.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Board wins because they are allowed to but not required to enforce the noise rules.  I sold a condo due to this situation.  Mary should call the police so they file a report.  When they continue to break the law she should sue the renters and the people who rented to the owners.</p>
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		<title>By: loren nason</title>
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		<dc:creator>loren nason</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Nov 2007 01:29:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i say the lady wins not the board</description>
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