Comments on: When Your Broker Competes http://blog.sellsiusrealestate.com/real-estate-confidential/when-your-broker-competes/2007/10/11/ Sun, 7 Sep 2008 00:47:32 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.3 By: Michelle D. Plevel http://blog.sellsiusrealestate.com/real-estate-confidential/when-your-broker-competes/2007/10/11/#comment-138634 Michelle D. Plevel Sat, 03 Nov 2007 00:48:17 +0000 http://blog.sellsiusrealestate.com/real-estate-confidential/when-your-broker-competes/2007/10/11/#comment-138634 This is a sticky widget between the broker that rips off the agents vs the broker that saves a deal. Both sides have a strong personal position. I have found over the years, that it is in my best interest not to depend on my broker to assist me and learn to call on experts. It's nice to think that your broker is an ethical, law abiding, professional but until you learn for sure, it's best to assume that you need to protect your interests as an agent. Check out the legal facts, become an expert with your contracts and board ethics. Then you will have better control of the deal. I have done business in many states and was ripped off last year at Running Y Ranch in Oregon by a developer's broker when I was the client! Go figure. I'm still learning the fine art of protection. This is a sticky widget between the broker that rips off the agents vs the broker that saves a deal. Both sides have a strong personal position. I have found over the years, that it is in my best interest not to depend on my broker to assist me and learn to call on experts.

It’s nice to think that your broker is an ethical, law abiding, professional but until you learn for sure, it’s best to assume that you need to protect your interests as an agent. Check out the legal facts, become an expert with your contracts and board ethics. Then you will have better control of the deal. I have done business in many states and was ripped off last year at Running Y Ranch in Oregon by a developer’s broker when I was the client! Go figure. I’m still learning the fine art of protection.

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]]> By: rudy http://blog.sellsiusrealestate.com/real-estate-confidential/when-your-broker-competes/2007/10/11/#comment-135264 rudy Sat, 20 Oct 2007 11:40:32 +0000 http://blog.sellsiusrealestate.com/real-estate-confidential/when-your-broker-competes/2007/10/11/#comment-135264 hi ardell! "You? Well, maybe :)" Likewise :) - rudy p.s. yeah, we had some fun with broker bob in sf ;) hi ardell!

“You? Well, maybe :)”

Likewise :)

- rudy

p.s. yeah, we had some fun with broker bob in sf ;)

]]> By: Ardell http://blog.sellsiusrealestate.com/real-estate-confidential/when-your-broker-competes/2007/10/11/#comment-135186 Ardell Sat, 20 Oct 2007 05:25:40 +0000 http://blog.sellsiusrealestate.com/real-estate-confidential/when-your-broker-competes/2007/10/11/#comment-135186 I didn't mean that you wrote it Rudy. I meant I knew if it were someone like you, I would have never said it. So Joe's right on that one. Bob is a hoot and smart and a hard worker and a great Dad and...they don't come much better than our Bob. I can't imagine there is anything I can't say to Joe on a blog and that needs to be said in private. You? Well, maybe :) I didn’t mean that you wrote it Rudy. I meant I knew if it were someone like you, I would have never said it. So Joe’s right on that one.

Bob is a hoot and smart and a hard worker and a great Dad and…they don’t come much better than our Bob.

I can’t imagine there is anything I can’t say to Joe on a blog and that needs to be said in private. You? Well, maybe :)

]]> By: rudy http://blog.sellsiusrealestate.com/real-estate-confidential/when-your-broker-competes/2007/10/11/#comment-134744 rudy Thu, 18 Oct 2007 13:53:38 +0000 http://blog.sellsiusrealestate.com/real-estate-confidential/when-your-broker-competes/2007/10/11/#comment-134744 hi ardell! sorry ardell, not my post. who the heck is bob? are talking about brio bob? did he egg you on? he's a funny dude you know...... hi bob! i think people get way too carried away with all this transparency mumbo jumbo. the fact is, some things are just best discussed in private. and when someone does take the time to address issues or experiences publicly on a blog, there is a reason for it. whatever the reason, the author surely knows. anonymous or not, the mystery blogger raises some interesting points. those who commented added valuable feedback. at the end of the day - we had a darn conversation. hi ardell!

sorry ardell, not my post. who the heck is bob? are talking about brio bob? did he egg you on? he’s a funny dude you know……

hi bob!

i think people get way too carried away with all this transparency mumbo jumbo. the fact is, some things are just best discussed in private. and when someone does take the time to address issues or experiences publicly on a blog, there is a reason for it. whatever the reason, the author surely knows. anonymous or not, the mystery blogger raises some interesting points. those who commented added valuable feedback. at the end of the day - we had a darn conversation.

]]> By: sellsius http://blog.sellsiusrealestate.com/real-estate-confidential/when-your-broker-competes/2007/10/11/#comment-134729 sellsius Thu, 18 Oct 2007 13:11:28 +0000 http://blog.sellsiusrealestate.com/real-estate-confidential/when-your-broker-competes/2007/10/11/#comment-134729 Ardell, That is the unknown-- the type of responses you'd get. In addition, how one would write if they had the anonymity mask on. My personal opinion is that writing would be uninhibited-- both in the post and the comments. It may have something to do with human nature. Like when you go to a costume party-- it seems like people are less inhibited with the mask on. I need a shrink to comment on the subject :) -jf Yeah, that sledgehammer will leave a bump :) Ardell,

That is the unknown– the type of responses you’d get.
In addition, how one would write if they had the anonymity mask on.

My personal opinion is that writing would be uninhibited– both in the post and the comments. It may have something to do with human nature. Like when you go to a costume party– it seems like people are less inhibited with the mask on. I need a shrink to comment on the subject :)

-jf

Yeah, that sledgehammer will leave a bump :)

]]> By: Ardell http://blog.sellsiusrealestate.com/real-estate-confidential/when-your-broker-competes/2007/10/11/#comment-134625 Ardell Thu, 18 Oct 2007 04:37:44 +0000 http://blog.sellsiusrealestate.com/real-estate-confidential/when-your-broker-competes/2007/10/11/#comment-134625 If I knew it were Rudy, I clearly would not have worded it that way :) So point taken. Not knowing the identity of the poster could have its advantages and disadvantages, depending on the kind of responses you are hoping to garner. I didn't run a blade through. I just whacked him/her upside the head. No blood. Just a bump on the noggin. If I knew it were Rudy, I clearly would not have worded it that way :) So point taken. Not knowing the identity of the poster could have its advantages and disadvantages, depending on the kind of responses you are hoping to garner.

I didn’t run a blade through. I just whacked him/her upside the head. No blood. Just a bump on the noggin.

]]> By: sellsius http://blog.sellsiusrealestate.com/real-estate-confidential/when-your-broker-competes/2007/10/11/#comment-134543 sellsius Wed, 17 Oct 2007 15:51:06 +0000 http://blog.sellsiusrealestate.com/real-estate-confidential/when-your-broker-competes/2007/10/11/#comment-134543 Now, that's what we call a biting comment, Ardell. We may be wrong, but maybe, just maybe, you would have not sharpened your knife so keenly if you knew the identity of the mystery blogger. And even if YOU knew the identity and still ran the blade through, others might have tempered their comments if they knew the mystery blogger. We raised the question of the self-censoring blogger: http://tinyurl.com/2b855z We think transparency is a double edged sword and anonymity is not always a bad thing. Obviously, we don't have the answers. So the mystery blogger is a way to experiment and explore the issues without identity getting in the way. That's what makes costume parties so much fun :) The mystery blogger is not truly anonymous, since we know the identity (but will not reveal it). Now, that’s what we call a biting comment, Ardell.

We may be wrong, but maybe, just maybe, you would have not sharpened your knife so keenly if you knew the identity of the mystery blogger. And even if YOU knew the identity and still ran the blade through, others might have tempered their comments if they knew the mystery blogger.

We raised the question of the self-censoring blogger:
http://tinyurl.com/2b855z

We think transparency is a double edged sword and anonymity is not always a bad thing. Obviously, we don’t have the answers. So the mystery blogger is a way to experiment and explore the issues without identity getting in the way. That’s what makes costume parties so much fun :)

The mystery blogger is not truly anonymous, since we know the identity (but will not reveal it).

]]> By: Ardell http://blog.sellsiusrealestate.com/real-estate-confidential/when-your-broker-competes/2007/10/11/#comment-134278 Ardell Wed, 17 Oct 2007 03:00:12 +0000 http://blog.sellsiusrealestate.com/real-estate-confidential/when-your-broker-competes/2007/10/11/#comment-134278 First, a short chat with Joe and Rudy. I didn't respond to this post initially because I don't like talking to anonymous bloggers. I like to know who I am speaking with and blogging is about Transparency. How can you have transparency and hide behind anonymity? So the whole "posted by Mystery Blogger" thing doesn't work for me. But I just got home and read this email in my inbox: Subject: "Your Fans Demand an Appearance" "http://blog.sellsiusrealestate.com/real-estate-confidential/when-your-broker-competes/2007/10/11/ :)" So I hate to comment without knowing who wrote this post, but here goes: WAA WAA WAA!!! What a whining crybaby! The broker gave you his FREAKIN' COUSIN and you BLEW IT BIG TIME!!! The Broker didn't cut you out for Crissake! He GAVE YOU his own COUSIN! His cousin was left at the 11th hour with no house! How embarrassing is that for a Broker! Then you acknowledge the people were in a total crunch time bind and you were too darned busy to accommodate them. I would have done more than jumped in and ended my cousin's agony, I would have broken your kneecaps! It was HIS COUSIN may I repeat that, his OWN cousin...not a Company Lead...His Cousin. Go apologize and stop badmouthing him and be happy his cousin found and got into a house. Happy Bob? First, a short chat with Joe and Rudy. I didn’t respond to this post initially because I don’t like talking to anonymous bloggers. I like to know who I am speaking with and blogging is about Transparency. How can you have transparency and hide behind anonymity? So the whole “posted by Mystery Blogger” thing doesn’t work for me.

But I just got home and read this email in my inbox:

Subject: “Your Fans Demand an Appearance”

“http://blog.sellsiusrealestate.com/real-estate-confidential/when-your-broker-competes/2007/10/11/ :)”

So I hate to comment without knowing who wrote this post, but here goes:

WAA WAA WAA!!! What a whining crybaby! The broker gave you his FREAKIN’ COUSIN and you BLEW IT BIG TIME!!! The Broker didn’t cut you out for Crissake! He GAVE YOU his own COUSIN! His cousin was left at the 11th hour with no house! How embarrassing is that for a Broker! Then you acknowledge the people were in a total crunch time bind and you were too darned busy to accommodate them.

I would have done more than jumped in and ended my cousin’s agony, I would have broken your kneecaps!

It was HIS COUSIN may I repeat that, his OWN cousin…not a Company Lead…His Cousin. Go apologize and stop badmouthing him and be happy his cousin found and got into a house.

Happy Bob?

]]> By: Kris Berg http://blog.sellsiusrealestate.com/real-estate-confidential/when-your-broker-competes/2007/10/11/#comment-134021 Kris Berg Mon, 15 Oct 2007 23:52:50 +0000 http://blog.sellsiusrealestate.com/real-estate-confidential/when-your-broker-competes/2007/10/11/#comment-134021 Hey, MB. Been there, done that. I left. Here was my experience. Even a well-intended, ethical working broker is going to skim business whether they mean to or not. I saw the monster rear its ugly head in the form of geographical farming, and I saw it happen time and again. If a seller wants to interview agents, they often will call the top agent from two or three top companies. If I as a seller get one shot at Company A, who am I going to contact - The top agent or the Broker Owner of the whole dang thing? I have got horror stories, but suffice it to say that working for an office with a working manager is a recipe for disaster. There are too many alternatives for the agent. Run! Hey, MB. Been there, done that. I left. Here was my experience. Even a well-intended, ethical working broker is going to skim business whether they mean to or not.

I saw the monster rear its ugly head in the form of geographical farming, and I saw it happen time and again. If a seller wants to interview agents, they often will call the top agent from two or three top companies. If I as a seller get one shot at Company A, who am I going to contact - The top agent or the Broker Owner of the whole dang thing? I have got horror stories, but suffice it to say that working for an office with a working manager is a recipe for disaster. There are too many alternatives for the agent. Run!

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