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	<title>Comments on: Real Estate Blogging&#8217;s Holy Grail and the Long Tale of The Transactional Visitor</title>
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		<title>By: How to Use Trulia Voices, Zillow Q&#38;A and &#8220;Interest Based&#8221; Social Networks to Build Your Own Brand</title>
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		<dc:creator>How to Use Trulia Voices, Zillow Q&#38;A and &#8220;Interest Based&#8221; Social Networks to Build Your Own Brand</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Sep 2008 20:01:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] tool]. While this censorship/moderation policy is understandable in their venues, the &#8220;transactional visitor&#8221; misses out on this information. On your home turf, you can provide this added value to the [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Internet Marketing for Real Estate &#187; Long Tail, Business Blogs and Measurement</title>
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		<dc:creator>Internet Marketing for Real Estate &#187; Long Tail, Business Blogs and Measurement</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jul 2008 15:58:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Joseph Ferrara, another of my current favorite business bloggers, gets the idea of &#8220;one-metric, many items&#8221; when he says (emphasis his): &#8220;If 20% (or whatever % you believe) of visitors come from long tail real estate searches– in total, unless you can cover all/most of the long tail searches in your market, like Amazon, you will only get a piece of that thin long tail  –granted, when we’re talking six-seven figure homes vs. two figure books and movies — that’s a nice piece of tail.&#8221; [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] Joseph Ferrara, another of my current favorite business bloggers, gets the idea of &#8220;one-metric, many items&#8221; when he says (emphasis his): &#8220;If 20% (or whatever % you believe) of visitors come from long tail real estate searches– in total, unless you can cover all/most of the long tail searches in your market, like Amazon, you will only get a piece of that thin long tail  –granted, when we’re talking six-seven figure homes vs. two figure books and movies — that’s a nice piece of tail.&#8221; [&#8230;]</p>
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		<title>By: G. Dewald</title>
		<link>http://blog.sellsiusrealestate.com/real-estate-marketing/real-estate-bloggings-holy-grail-and-the-long-tale-of-the-transactional-visitor/2008/04/18/#comment-218143</link>
		<dc:creator>G. Dewald</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Apr 2008 18:40:27 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blog.sellsiusrealestate.com/real-estate-marketing/real-estate-bloggings-holy-grail-and-the-long-tale-of-the-transactional-visitor/2008/04/18/#comment-218143</guid>
		<description>Hey Joe,

I couldn't help but wade into this topic at the USM blog. I'd love your feedback in public or private. Thanks for the great topic.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Joe,</p>
<p>I couldn&#8217;t help but wade into this topic at the USM blog. I&#8217;d love your feedback in public or private. Thanks for the great topic.</p>
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		<title>By: RealEstateUndressed &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Thanks Joe For The Nice Write up in Sellsius Today</title>
		<link>http://blog.sellsiusrealestate.com/real-estate-marketing/real-estate-bloggings-holy-grail-and-the-long-tale-of-the-transactional-visitor/2008/04/18/#comment-217467</link>
		<dc:creator>RealEstateUndressed &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Thanks Joe For The Nice Write up in Sellsius Today</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Apr 2008 20:15:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] your blog or website by marketing it offline. This traffic may also increase your odds of getting transactional visitors, those folks who want to buy, rent, sell or otherwise do business in real estate now or in the very [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] your blog or website by marketing it offline. This traffic may also increase your odds of getting transactional visitors, those folks who want to buy, rent, sell or otherwise do business in real estate now or in the very [&#8230;]</p>
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		<title>By: Buy To Let on The Finance World For News and Information Around The World On Finance &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Comment on Real Estate Blogging’s Holy Grail and the Long Tale of&#8230;</title>
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		<dc:creator>Buy To Let on The Finance World For News and Information Around The World On Finance &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Comment on Real Estate Blogging’s Holy Grail and the Long Tale of&#8230;</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Apr 2008 20:18:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Comment on Real Estate Blogging’s Holy Grail and the Long Tale of&#8230; Hopefully, you agree that consumers out to buy, sell or rent are on a &#8230; First, let me make clear I am not suggesting an “either/or” strategy [...]</description>
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		<title>By: How to Market Your Blog Offline: Follow the Spider</title>
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		<dc:creator>How to Market Your Blog Offline: Follow the Spider</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Apr 2008 13:51:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] your blog or website by marketing it offline. This traffic may also increase your odds of getting transactional visitors, those folks who want to buy, rent, sell or otherwise do business in real estate now or in the very [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] your blog or website by marketing it offline. This traffic may also increase your odds of getting transactional visitors, those folks who want to buy, rent, sell or otherwise do business in real estate now or in the very [&#8230;]</p>
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		<title>By: Buy To Let on The Finance World For News and Information Around The World On Finance &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Real Estate Blogging’s Holy Grail and the Long Tale of The &#8230;</title>
		<link>http://blog.sellsiusrealestate.com/real-estate-marketing/real-estate-bloggings-holy-grail-and-the-long-tale-of-the-transactional-visitor/2008/04/18/#comment-215836</link>
		<dc:creator>Buy To Let on The Finance World For News and Information Around The World On Finance &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Real Estate Blogging’s Holy Grail and the Long Tale of The &#8230;</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Apr 2008 06:52:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Real Estate Blogging’s Holy Grail and the Long Tale of The &#8230; &#8230; let me make clear that I advocate best SEO practices to increase a real estate agent’s ranking higher in Google for keyword phrases entered by folks wanting/needing to buy, sell, rent or otherwise transact business involving real &#8230; [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] Real Estate Blogging’s Holy Grail and the Long Tale of The &#8230; &#8230; let me make clear that I advocate best SEO practices to increase a real estate agent’s ranking higher in Google for keyword phrases entered by folks wanting/needing to buy, sell, rent or otherwise transact business involving real &#8230; [&#8230;]</p>
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		<title>By: Joseph Ferrara</title>
		<link>http://blog.sellsiusrealestate.com/real-estate-marketing/real-estate-bloggings-holy-grail-and-the-long-tale-of-the-transactional-visitor/2008/04/18/#comment-215403</link>
		<dc:creator>Joseph Ferrara</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Apr 2008 01:52:43 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blog.sellsiusrealestate.com/real-estate-marketing/real-estate-bloggings-holy-grail-and-the-long-tale-of-the-transactional-visitor/2008/04/18/#comment-215403</guid>
		<description>@Mike 

Perhaps.

The motivation for the post? It's not that there is a problem with bloggers gone wild chasing tail.  I never said it was a problem, big or small, nor that long tail is a worthless strategy (it is a niche strategy that has application, especially if you have a niche), but only that I agree with Mary as to its dearth of attracting transactional visitors, generally speaking, compared to keywords bringing more TVs.

Nor was the motivation to create a controversy. I am not aware that one exists.

The motivation was to make a few points and invite conversation (which I thank you, and others, for providing):

1. the most valuable visitor to a RE blog is a person wanting to transact business now and that a RE blog for business should focus on attracting those visitors. In essence, the best blog is the best real estate website, with a conversation element added for new content.

2.  blogging is a numbers game but the numbers that count for the most business come from transactional visitors-- not the visitors that come to see you bash a fellow Realtor.  The more transactional visitors , the more conversions, the more conversions, the more trips to the bank. 

3. assuming you accept the Pareto Distribution, by definition, ranking higher in the search engines for head/neck keywords will bring much more TV traffic than long tail keywords (so maybe I was stating the obvious?).  

I also said I believe the entire long tail is only 20% of the total market. (and no one wanted to talk about that-- dang)

4. the long tail strategy (to get at this 20%) works best if (a) you can cover the entire tail in your market -- that was the point of the Amazon/Netflix study. (one way to cover it may be to have a category for each neighborhood and you regularly write on each neighborhood from a buyer or seller perspective) or (b) you do business in a niche (I used the example of Earth homes) or (c) your TV comes via long tail hits (if a hot new building goes up in your market, its all over the local news and there's a lot of buzz-- you ought to be buzzing along too from a buyer/seller perspective)

RE your comment: "When I said rich content covers both I was assuming the best SEO practices, not saying that certain techniques to get good placement aren’t important.
If there are bloggers out there going after only for the long tail, I assume they are using the best techniques to get good placement with longtail results."

Here we definitely agree: Best SEO IS important, regardless of any tail talk.   But..I don't assume folks use best SEO practices and, in the end, that's what this may be all about.   The fact that you or I understand something helps in search engine placement does not mean everyone else does (I'm sure you agree). So I put information out there that may help someone who may not know. Heck, I'm still learning. 

The folks that already know how to row the blog boat, like Todd or Ann, or you, don't need my opinion to make money from their blogs. But all are not as fortunate. 

As always, thanks for stopping by Mike.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Mike </p>
<p>Perhaps.</p>
<p>The motivation for the post? It&#8217;s not that there is a problem with bloggers gone wild chasing tail.  I never said it was a problem, big or small, nor that long tail is a worthless strategy (it is a niche strategy that has application, especially if you have a niche), but only that I agree with Mary as to its dearth of attracting transactional visitors, generally speaking, compared to keywords bringing more TVs.</p>
<p>Nor was the motivation to create a controversy. I am not aware that one exists.</p>
<p>The motivation was to make a few points and invite conversation (which I thank you, and others, for providing):</p>
<p>1. the most valuable visitor to a RE blog is a person wanting to transact business now and that a RE blog for business should focus on attracting those visitors. In essence, the best blog is the best real estate website, with a conversation element added for new content.</p>
<p>2.  blogging is a numbers game but the numbers that count for the most business come from transactional visitors&#8211; not the visitors that come to see you bash a fellow Realtor.  The more transactional visitors , the more conversions, the more conversions, the more trips to the bank. </p>
<p>3. assuming you accept the Pareto Distribution, by definition, ranking higher in the search engines for head/neck keywords will bring much more TV traffic than long tail keywords (so maybe I was stating the obvious?).  </p>
<p>I also said I believe the entire long tail is only 20% of the total market. (and no one wanted to talk about that&#8211; dang)</p>
<p>4. the long tail strategy (to get at this 20%) works best if (a) you can cover the entire tail in your market &#8212; that was the point of the Amazon/Netflix study. (one way to cover it may be to have a category for each neighborhood and you regularly write on each neighborhood from a buyer or seller perspective) or (b) you do business in a niche (I used the example of Earth homes) or (c) your TV comes via long tail hits (if a hot new building goes up in your market, its all over the local news and there&#8217;s a lot of buzz&#8211; you ought to be buzzing along too from a buyer/seller perspective)</p>
<p>RE your comment: &#8220;When I said rich content covers both I was assuming the best SEO practices, not saying that certain techniques to get good placement aren’t important.<br />
If there are bloggers out there going after only for the long tail, I assume they are using the best techniques to get good placement with longtail results.&#8221;</p>
<p>Here we definitely agree: Best SEO IS important, regardless of any tail talk.   But..I don&#8217;t assume folks use best SEO practices and, in the end, that&#8217;s what this may be all about.   The fact that you or I understand something helps in search engine placement does not mean everyone else does (I&#8217;m sure you agree). So I put information out there that may help someone who may not know. Heck, I&#8217;m still learning. </p>
<p>The folks that already know how to row the blog boat, like Todd or Ann, or you, don&#8217;t need my opinion to make money from their blogs. But all are not as fortunate. </p>
<p>As always, thanks for stopping by Mike.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike Farmer</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mike Farmer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Apr 2008 22:49:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>aren't utilizing</description>
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		<title>By: Mike Farmer</title>
		<link>http://blog.sellsiusrealestate.com/real-estate-marketing/real-estate-bloggings-holy-grail-and-the-long-tale-of-the-transactional-visitor/2008/04/18/#comment-215351</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike Farmer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Apr 2008 22:48:31 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blog.sellsiusrealestate.com/real-estate-marketing/real-estate-bloggings-holy-grail-and-the-long-tale-of-the-transactional-visitor/2008/04/18/#comment-215351</guid>
		<description>I think you have missed my point.

Let's assume that certain techniques are widely known to improve search results.

That brings us to what type of results the blogger is looking for.

Mary seems to say that some agents are looking only for long tail results -- they "chase" the long tail.

I'm wondering if there really are a lot of bloggers who "chase" the long tail at the expense of short tail as a strategy.

If there are a lot of bloggers doing this then fine, the warning to not do it makes sense.

But if, as I suspect, there aren't many agents who claim that the best strategy is to the chase the long tail and not worry about the short tail, then Mary's blog appears to be creating a problem where there isn't one.

When I said rich content covers both I was assuming the best SEO practices, not saying that certain techniques to get good placement aren't important.

If there are bloggers out there going after only for the long tail, I assume they are using the best techniques to get good placement with longtail results.

So all the warnings about flash, titles, first paragraphs, metatags and all that are not pertinent to what I was wondering. I understand all that -- what i don't understand is the motivation for the post -- are there a lot of agents focusing only on long tail?

I don't think Mary's point was that bloggers are utilizing the best SEO practices -- her point was the target of the blogger's efforts, long tail or short tail.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think you have missed my point.</p>
<p>Let&#8217;s assume that certain techniques are widely known to improve search results.</p>
<p>That brings us to what type of results the blogger is looking for.</p>
<p>Mary seems to say that some agents are looking only for long tail results &#8212; they &#8220;chase&#8221; the long tail.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m wondering if there really are a lot of bloggers who &#8220;chase&#8221; the long tail at the expense of short tail as a strategy.</p>
<p>If there are a lot of bloggers doing this then fine, the warning to not do it makes sense.</p>
<p>But if, as I suspect, there aren&#8217;t many agents who claim that the best strategy is to the chase the long tail and not worry about the short tail, then Mary&#8217;s blog appears to be creating a problem where there isn&#8217;t one.</p>
<p>When I said rich content covers both I was assuming the best SEO practices, not saying that certain techniques to get good placement aren&#8217;t important.</p>
<p>If there are bloggers out there going after only for the long tail, I assume they are using the best techniques to get good placement with longtail results.</p>
<p>So all the warnings about flash, titles, first paragraphs, metatags and all that are not pertinent to what I was wondering. I understand all that &#8212; what i don&#8217;t understand is the motivation for the post &#8212; are there a lot of agents focusing only on long tail?</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t think Mary&#8217;s point was that bloggers are utilizing the best SEO practices &#8212; her point was the target of the blogger&#8217;s efforts, long tail or short tail.</p>
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