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	<title>Comments on: Owners in Zillowland: We Want Out, Zestimates Removed</title>
	<link>http://blog.sellsiusrealestate.com/zillow/owners-in-zillowland-we-want-out-zestimates-removed/2007/10/23/</link>
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	<pubDate>Sat, 11 Oct 2008 18:19:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Overheard at Zillow: I&#8217;m Calling a Lawyer</title>
		<link>http://blog.sellsiusrealestate.com/zillow/owners-in-zillowland-we-want-out-zestimates-removed/2007/10/23/#comment-223916</link>
		<dc:creator>Overheard at Zillow: I&#8217;m Calling a Lawyer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 May 2008 07:18:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Owners in Zillowland: We Want Out, Zestimates Removed (more real folks speak out) [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] Owners in Zillowland: We Want Out, Zestimates Removed (more real folks speak out) [&#8230;]</p>
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		<title>By: Will Zillow Finally Give Home Sellers An Opt Out of the Zestimate?</title>
		<link>http://blog.sellsiusrealestate.com/zillow/owners-in-zillowland-we-want-out-zestimates-removed/2007/10/23/#comment-221004</link>
		<dc:creator>Will Zillow Finally Give Home Sellers An Opt Out of the Zestimate?</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 May 2008 12:54:02 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blog.sellsiusrealestate.com/zillow/owners-in-zillowland-we-want-out-zestimates-removed/2007/10/23/#comment-221004</guid>
		<description>[...] Owners in Zillowland: We Want Out, Zestimates Removed [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] Owners in Zillowland: We Want Out, Zestimates Removed [&#8230;]</p>
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		<title>By: Zillow&#8217;s Bogus Listings: Houses Listed for Sale Without Owners Knowledge</title>
		<link>http://blog.sellsiusrealestate.com/zillow/owners-in-zillowland-we-want-out-zestimates-removed/2007/10/23/#comment-208951</link>
		<dc:creator>Zillow&#8217;s Bogus Listings: Houses Listed for Sale Without Owners Knowledge</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Apr 2008 23:17:16 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blog.sellsiusrealestate.com/zillow/owners-in-zillowland-we-want-out-zestimates-removed/2007/10/23/#comment-208951</guid>
		<description>[...] had often opined that Zillow is ignoring the right of homeowners to decide where and how their home should be marketed. Clearly, there are risks to the homeowner if Zillow allows any Tom, Dick or Brian to list a home [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] had often opined that Zillow is ignoring the right of homeowners to decide where and how their home should be marketed. Clearly, there are risks to the homeowner if Zillow allows any Tom, Dick or Brian to list a home [&#8230;]</p>
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		<title>By: Zillow To Put Virtual Sold Signs on Homeowners Virtual Lawns</title>
		<link>http://blog.sellsiusrealestate.com/zillow/owners-in-zillowland-we-want-out-zestimates-removed/2007/10/23/#comment-146681</link>
		<dc:creator>Zillow To Put Virtual Sold Signs on Homeowners Virtual Lawns</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Nov 2007 20:49:30 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blog.sellsiusrealestate.com/zillow/owners-in-zillowland-we-want-out-zestimates-removed/2007/10/23/#comment-146681</guid>
		<description>[...] Owners in Zillowland, We Want Out, Zestimates Removed [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] Owners in Zillowland, We Want Out, Zestimates Removed [&#8230;]</p>
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		<title>By: sellsius</title>
		<link>http://blog.sellsiusrealestate.com/zillow/owners-in-zillowland-we-want-out-zestimates-removed/2007/10/23/#comment-136746</link>
		<dc:creator>sellsius</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Oct 2007 20:56:28 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blog.sellsiusrealestate.com/zillow/owners-in-zillowland-we-want-out-zestimates-removed/2007/10/23/#comment-136746</guid>
		<description>Yes, Rhonda, I do recall that ping pong match-- the employees at Zillow are wonderful people and they welcomed us with great hospitality. And I really do like David Gibbons and Drew Meyers-- they are both intelligent, stand-up fellas-- and Zillow is darn lucky to have them (David &#038; Drew should get combat pay for commenting here---and they do it with such class, always).

--- I'd never pick a bone with the Zillow folks-- my gripe is with the non-industry corporate dudes who think they know what's best. But what is best for buyers should not be obtained by steppin' on home owners' rights. Besides, it is not best for buyers to have inaccurate zestimates--  sellers opting out of them would actually be HELPING buyers. Maybe Zillow does not trust sellers to be honest about inaccurate zestimates.  

David G does not dispute (yet) that the enumerated rights listed in this post are exclusive to owners. 

Rhonda, I think you offer a good suggestion.  At least it allows owners a choice-- something they do not have now.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, Rhonda, I do recall that ping pong match&#8211; the employees at Zillow are wonderful people and they welcomed us with great hospitality. And I really do like David Gibbons and Drew Meyers&#8211; they are both intelligent, stand-up fellas&#8211; and Zillow is darn lucky to have them (David &#038; Drew should get combat pay for commenting here&#8212;and they do it with such class, always).</p>
<p>&#8212; I&#8217;d never pick a bone with the Zillow folks&#8211; my gripe is with the non-industry corporate dudes who think they know what&#8217;s best. But what is best for buyers should not be obtained by steppin&#8217; on home owners&#8217; rights. Besides, it is not best for buyers to have inaccurate zestimates&#8211;  sellers opting out of them would actually be HELPING buyers. Maybe Zillow does not trust sellers to be honest about inaccurate zestimates.  </p>
<p>David G does not dispute (yet) that the enumerated rights listed in this post are exclusive to owners. </p>
<p>Rhonda, I think you offer a good suggestion.  At least it allows owners a choice&#8211; something they do not have now.</p>
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		<title>By: SF Real Estate: &#8220;The Scoop&#8221; &#187; Blog Archive &#187; San Francisco Real Estate</title>
		<link>http://blog.sellsiusrealestate.com/zillow/owners-in-zillowland-we-want-out-zestimates-removed/2007/10/23/#comment-136664</link>
		<dc:creator>SF Real Estate: &#8220;The Scoop&#8221; &#187; Blog Archive &#187; San Francisco Real Estate</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Oct 2007 15:09:35 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blog.sellsiusrealestate.com/zillow/owners-in-zillowland-we-want-out-zestimates-removed/2007/10/23/#comment-136664</guid>
		<description>[...] Arson suspected in SoCal [SF Gate] · Opinion: Zillow plays dirty [Sellsius] · Swig to SF Redevelopment Agency [SF Sentinal] · Fire your realtor [Patrick.net] · [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] Arson suspected in SoCal [SF Gate] · Opinion: Zillow plays dirty [Sellsius] · Swig to SF Redevelopment Agency [SF Sentinal] · Fire your realtor [Patrick.net] · [&#8230;]</p>
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		<title>By: Obeoman</title>
		<link>http://blog.sellsiusrealestate.com/zillow/owners-in-zillowland-we-want-out-zestimates-removed/2007/10/23/#comment-136539</link>
		<dc:creator>Obeoman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Oct 2007 23:48:58 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blog.sellsiusrealestate.com/zillow/owners-in-zillowland-we-want-out-zestimates-removed/2007/10/23/#comment-136539</guid>
		<description>Tom,

Directly responding to you - free speech is a human endeavor, and as such, subject to our individual strengths and weaknesses.It is best judged by the openess and depth of the discussion at hand.

None of us make excuses for those that break the trust - we hold them accountable - in public, and usually in a painful way.

Your own language indicates the lack of durability in your argument. 
If Zillow is poaching, they should expect to be treated as poachers.

Obeoman

steven.stearns@obeo.com</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tom,</p>
<p>Directly responding to you - free speech is a human endeavor, and as such, subject to our individual strengths and weaknesses.It is best judged by the openess and depth of the discussion at hand.</p>
<p>None of us make excuses for those that break the trust - we hold them accountable - in public, and usually in a painful way.</p>
<p>Your own language indicates the lack of durability in your argument.<br />
If Zillow is poaching, they should expect to be treated as poachers.</p>
<p>Obeoman</p>
<p><a href="mailto:steven.stearns@obeo.com">steven.stearns@obeo.com</a></p>
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		<title>By: sellsius</title>
		<link>http://blog.sellsiusrealestate.com/zillow/owners-in-zillowland-we-want-out-zestimates-removed/2007/10/23/#comment-136521</link>
		<dc:creator>sellsius</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Oct 2007 22:11:35 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blog.sellsiusrealestate.com/zillow/owners-in-zillowland-we-want-out-zestimates-removed/2007/10/23/#comment-136521</guid>
		<description>Thanks for your comment Tom.  

We support your right to choose Zillow and others' rights not to. 

That's what's great about having a CHOICE. 

,</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for your comment Tom.  </p>
<p>We support your right to choose Zillow and others&#8217; rights not to. </p>
<p>That&#8217;s what&#8217;s great about having a CHOICE. </p>
<p>,</p>
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		<title>By: Thomas Johnson</title>
		<link>http://blog.sellsiusrealestate.com/zillow/owners-in-zillowland-we-want-out-zestimates-removed/2007/10/23/#comment-136508</link>
		<dc:creator>Thomas Johnson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Oct 2007 21:04:58 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blog.sellsiusrealestate.com/zillow/owners-in-zillowland-we-want-out-zestimates-removed/2007/10/23/#comment-136508</guid>
		<description>Free speech,unfettered and interpreted by the Supreme Court is held in the respect of public trust, journalists and the news media.

Yes, we all know how ethical and reliable the media is.  Dan Rather CBS-fake but accurate/NY Times with their quota driven plagiarists.  Public trust indeed.

The Texas data for Zillow is hamstrung because we are a non-disclosure state.  It is illegal to post sales information in a public forum.  I give Zillow a big thumbs up in providing a durable website that ultimately will be a benefit to all the participants.  Don't want your listing poached? CLAIM IT!

Of course as an agent at the "inscrutable" ERA, all our listings will be posted to Zillow.  We love it!

Tom Johnson
Zestifarmer
ERAHouston.com</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Free speech,unfettered and interpreted by the Supreme Court is held in the respect of public trust, journalists and the news media.</p>
<p>Yes, we all know how ethical and reliable the media is.  Dan Rather CBS-fake but accurate/NY Times with their quota driven plagiarists.  Public trust indeed.</p>
<p>The Texas data for Zillow is hamstrung because we are a non-disclosure state.  It is illegal to post sales information in a public forum.  I give Zillow a big thumbs up in providing a durable website that ultimately will be a benefit to all the participants.  Don&#8217;t want your listing poached? CLAIM IT!</p>
<p>Of course as an agent at the &#8220;inscrutable&#8221; ERA, all our listings will be posted to Zillow.  We love it!</p>
<p>Tom Johnson<br />
Zestifarmer<br />
ERAHouston.com</p>
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		<title>By: Rhonda Porter</title>
		<link>http://blog.sellsiusrealestate.com/zillow/owners-in-zillowland-we-want-out-zestimates-removed/2007/10/23/#comment-136357</link>
		<dc:creator>Rhonda Porter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Oct 2007 05:24:20 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blog.sellsiusrealestate.com/zillow/owners-in-zillowland-we-want-out-zestimates-removed/2007/10/23/#comment-136357</guid>
		<description>Was I at this ping pong match at Blog Tour USA?  ;)

Maybe a seller should have the option of having the tax assessed value shows instead of the zesitmate...Zillow could have a different color house for those who have opted out...maybe grey or brown?

Just a thought.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Was I at this ping pong match at Blog Tour USA?  <img src='http://blog.sellsiusrealestate.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Maybe a seller should have the option of having the tax assessed value shows instead of the zesitmate&#8230;Zillow could have a different color house for those who have opted out&#8230;maybe grey or brown?</p>
<p>Just a thought.</p>
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