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	<title>Comments on: Zillow To Put Virtual Sold Signs on Homeowners Virtual Lawns</title>
	<link>http://blog.sellsiusrealestate.com/zillowcom/zillow-to-put-virtual-sold-signs-on-homeowners-virtual-lawns/2007/11/15/</link>
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	<pubDate>Fri, 29 Aug 2008 02:37:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Sohbet</title>
		<link>http://blog.sellsiusrealestate.com/zillowcom/zillow-to-put-virtual-sold-signs-on-homeowners-virtual-lawns/2007/11/15/#comment-155049</link>
		<dc:creator>Sohbet</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Nov 2007 13:02:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Very nice.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Very nice.</p>
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		<title>By: sellsius</title>
		<link>http://blog.sellsiusrealestate.com/zillowcom/zillow-to-put-virtual-sold-signs-on-homeowners-virtual-lawns/2007/11/15/#comment-147630</link>
		<dc:creator>sellsius</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Nov 2007 20:55:26 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blog.sellsiusrealestate.com/zillowcom/zillow-to-put-virtual-sold-signs-on-homeowners-virtual-lawns/2007/11/15/#comment-147630</guid>
		<description>Gena--

Yes, we agree.  Someone tell David G.  He doesn't listen to us :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gena&#8211;</p>
<p>Yes, we agree.  Someone tell David G.  He doesn&#8217;t listen to us <img src='http://blog.sellsiusrealestate.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /></p>
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		<title>By: Gena Riede</title>
		<link>http://blog.sellsiusrealestate.com/zillowcom/zillow-to-put-virtual-sold-signs-on-homeowners-virtual-lawns/2007/11/15/#comment-147532</link>
		<dc:creator>Gena Riede</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Nov 2007 18:13:03 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blog.sellsiusrealestate.com/zillowcom/zillow-to-put-virtual-sold-signs-on-homeowners-virtual-lawns/2007/11/15/#comment-147532</guid>
		<description>Good viral question. It seems to me that both parties listing and selling should be listed if one is going to do a virtual sold sign...one can't do it without the other...it takes 2!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good viral question. It seems to me that both parties listing and selling should be listed if one is going to do a virtual sold sign&#8230;one can&#8217;t do it without the other&#8230;it takes 2!</p>
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		<title>By: EDYN Real Estate</title>
		<link>http://blog.sellsiusrealestate.com/zillowcom/zillow-to-put-virtual-sold-signs-on-homeowners-virtual-lawns/2007/11/15/#comment-146930</link>
		<dc:creator>EDYN Real Estate</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Nov 2007 02:20:13 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blog.sellsiusrealestate.com/zillowcom/zillow-to-put-virtual-sold-signs-on-homeowners-virtual-lawns/2007/11/15/#comment-146930</guid>
		<description>Who should be listed? Buyer's agent or Listing Agent?

Whomever pays more.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Who should be listed? Buyer&#8217;s agent or Listing Agent?</p>
<p>Whomever pays more.</p>
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		<title>By: sellsius</title>
		<link>http://blog.sellsiusrealestate.com/zillowcom/zillow-to-put-virtual-sold-signs-on-homeowners-virtual-lawns/2007/11/15/#comment-146784</link>
		<dc:creator>sellsius</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Nov 2007 23:07:02 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blog.sellsiusrealestate.com/zillowcom/zillow-to-put-virtual-sold-signs-on-homeowners-virtual-lawns/2007/11/15/#comment-146784</guid>
		<description>Point taken Todd. That's why we called it a "virtual trespass"

And by "virtual trespass" we mean without homeowner consent to it appearing on zillow.com. 

I think there is an implied consent by the home seller that the listing broker can advertise they sold the home, at least for some period of time -- the sold sign on the lawn-- and that consent probably extends also to the broker's website.  But the question we pose is-- does that consent extend to third party aggregators who are using it to generate ad income for themselves.  Our opinion is no, it does not. And we also have the question of the new homeowner-- does he or she give consent to the sold sign on the home which is no longer a listing?  

The thornier question is whether the details of the home sale-- the broker name and contact info -- are part of the public record.  If they are, our position is harder to defend &#038; we would probably concede it to Zillow but argue in that case, the buyer agent should also be listed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Point taken Todd. That&#8217;s why we called it a &#8220;virtual trespass&#8221;</p>
<p>And by &#8220;virtual trespass&#8221; we mean without homeowner consent to it appearing on zillow.com. </p>
<p>I think there is an implied consent by the home seller that the listing broker can advertise they sold the home, at least for some period of time &#8212; the sold sign on the lawn&#8211; and that consent probably extends also to the broker&#8217;s website.  But the question we pose is&#8211; does that consent extend to third party aggregators who are using it to generate ad income for themselves.  Our opinion is no, it does not. And we also have the question of the new homeowner&#8211; does he or she give consent to the sold sign on the home which is no longer a listing?  </p>
<p>The thornier question is whether the details of the home sale&#8211; the broker name and contact info &#8212; are part of the public record.  If they are, our position is harder to defend &#038; we would probably concede it to Zillow but argue in that case, the buyer agent should also be listed.</p>
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		<title>By: EDYN Real Estate</title>
		<link>http://blog.sellsiusrealestate.com/zillowcom/zillow-to-put-virtual-sold-signs-on-homeowners-virtual-lawns/2007/11/15/#comment-146773</link>
		<dc:creator>EDYN Real Estate</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Nov 2007 22:56:52 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blog.sellsiusrealestate.com/zillowcom/zillow-to-put-virtual-sold-signs-on-homeowners-virtual-lawns/2007/11/15/#comment-146773</guid>
		<description>I'm over Zillow.

Zillow is going to change real estate-Hype
Zestimates are going to replace Realtors-Hype
Make me Move-Hype
Zillow Ads-More Hype
Zillow Q&#38;A -more Hype
Zillow Virtual SOld Signs-Even more hype

When is the hype going to end?

Zillow and Trulia are like the Facebook and Myspace for the Real Estate world, except noone is really hanging out in the social real estate world. Zillow want's to be but will never be a social network for real estate. To be that, it has to be open source. Open source is allowing other people to guide, direct and have say in your online community. Sellsius has already let us know that Zillow doesn't exactly do that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m over Zillow.</p>
<p>Zillow is going to change real estate-Hype<br />
Zestimates are going to replace Realtors-Hype<br />
Make me Move-Hype<br />
Zillow Ads-More Hype<br />
Zillow Q&amp;A -more Hype<br />
Zillow Virtual SOld Signs-Even more hype</p>
<p>When is the hype going to end?</p>
<p>Zillow and Trulia are like the Facebook and Myspace for the Real Estate world, except noone is really hanging out in the social real estate world. Zillow want&#8217;s to be but will never be a social network for real estate. To be that, it has to be open source. Open source is allowing other people to guide, direct and have say in your online community. Sellsius has already let us know that Zillow doesn&#8217;t exactly do that.</p>
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		<title>By: Todd Carpenter</title>
		<link>http://blog.sellsiusrealestate.com/zillowcom/zillow-to-put-virtual-sold-signs-on-homeowners-virtual-lawns/2007/11/15/#comment-146730</link>
		<dc:creator>Todd Carpenter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Nov 2007 21:48:17 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blog.sellsiusrealestate.com/zillowcom/zillow-to-put-virtual-sold-signs-on-homeowners-virtual-lawns/2007/11/15/#comment-146730</guid>
		<description>I don't think I can agree with your virtual trespass analogy. An RE Agent's sign is placed on private property. This virtual sold sign is placed on an aggregate of public information.

I guess I wouldn't decide if this is a good idea or not until I saw it implemented. I think it's useful to know who's the dominant lister in a particular area, so I guess I don't really see a problem.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t think I can agree with your virtual trespass analogy. An RE Agent&#8217;s sign is placed on private property. This virtual sold sign is placed on an aggregate of public information.</p>
<p>I guess I wouldn&#8217;t decide if this is a good idea or not until I saw it implemented. I think it&#8217;s useful to know who&#8217;s the dominant lister in a particular area, so I guess I don&#8217;t really see a problem.</p>
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